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February 9, 2019

Chinese CS/LS2: A Modern Bullpup SMG with no Redeeming Qualities

From Forgotten Weapons on Saturday, February 9th, 2019 in Rifles, & Videos
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This the fairly modern Chinese CS/LS2 - the 9mm Parabellum export model of the 5.8mm QCW-05 submachine gun. It takes most of its design cues form the QBZ-95 rifle, as you can see form the grip layout. It is a bullpup, with a right-ride ejection port that cannot be swapped. It is a bullpup style design, with the magazine behind the trigger, and it fires from an open bolt with both semiautomatic and full auto selector options.
The receiver is made of aluminum, contributing to a quite light gun. The bolt is also relatively light, resulting in a high cyclic rate and more felt recoil than many 9mm SMGs. The bolt is slamming into the rear of the receiver on each shot, which causes a lot of movement in the gun while shooting. The iron sights are a removable option on an integral pica tinny rail, which is a good thing - they are awful. The same minuscule rear aperture that the QBZ rifle has. The suppressor is not particularly efficient.
I have no prejudice against Chinese small arms - Chinese AKs were/are extremely well made. But this modern bullpup family is really pretty mediocre in all its forms.
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50 Comments on "Chinese CS/LS2: A Modern Bullpup SMG with no Redeeming Qualities":

Critos Da Bull Thursday, February 21st, 2019
So what I'm hearing is "If you just improved the build quality with the rail and increased the weight of the bolt" it would be adequate?
Robert Mccutcheon Thursday, February 21st, 2019
looks like the halo gun
Gum Monster Thursday, February 21st, 2019
Makes for a cool movie gun at least.
Liez Febryan Thursday, February 21st, 2019
im a lession main
Bradley Koperski Thursday, February 21st, 2019
That stock looks really thin and short.
Alex Wells Thursday, February 21st, 2019
Looks like Ubisoft's nerfs transferred to real life
Jordan Boyle Thursday, February 21st, 2019
That rate of fire is insane !!!
EABA EndAllBeAll Wednesday, February 20th, 2019
39 Chinese disliked this video. They are watchingđź‘€
CohenDrake Hauck Wednesday, February 20th, 2019
you forgot to deploy your gu mines
Svalfish1 Wednesday, February 20th, 2019
patch update Nerf to lesion's gun to keep it more in line with real life model
Alfred Wang Wednesday, February 20th, 2019
This is the JS2 from bf4
Dongyu Wu Wednesday, February 20th, 2019
In China we use 5.8mm bullet and fill the cartridge with rice instead of gunpowder
nikbrady14 Wednesday, February 20th, 2019
I'd buy one or a type 97 if they were in the US since there unique
Charles Rablin Wednesday, February 20th, 2019
Maybe you have to be small person to be comfortable with it. Also no complain or you will be punished.
Dwarf-Elvish Diplomacy Wednesday, February 20th, 2019
And thats why lesion is relying on his traps
sgtn00dle Wednesday, February 20th, 2019
At the end of the day it still shoots 9mm bullets reliably, which is way more than commies deserve.
Travis E Wednesday, February 20th, 2019
Canada; together with New Zealand, The lesser known provinces of the peoples republic of china
R Soul Wednesday, February 20th, 2019
Lesson for today, it isn’t too hard to appear modern and impressive, but the lack of R&D has to count somewhere.
WrathMachine Wednesday, February 20th, 2019
Ubisoft needs to take some notes
GuardianLords Wednesday, February 20th, 2019
if only the Chinese guns performed as good as it looks.
Kido Tsubomi Wednesday, February 20th, 2019
One important thing to know: this design (QCW-05) was designed for firing a 5.8x21mm ammo. For this 9mm version, the problem is coming from the "unsuitable ammo for this design".
William Wallace Wednesday, February 20th, 2019
You get what you pay for regardless of nationality, it seems. Also... it just seems like it was designed with a set of ideas in mind that just dont work really well in terms of SMG design requirements. Lightweight is awesome as a feature, but it came at the cost of quite a lot of usability and comfort. The sights unscrewing themselves was sad, but many have mentioned the various glue solutions and I imagine whoever these got issued to quickly just did that and didn't worry about it. Is it a good design? No. Can you more or less correct the problem after production? Yes.I strongly doubt this is China-bashing. Someone sounded a bit like a China fanboy with that line of reasoning... this is "crappy gun bashing" for sure. Given a choice between that and an MP5... I'm pretty sure I'll opt for the MP5 every time. The point is automatic fire (I'm told) and as such the Chinese gun did not look at all pleasant or controllable to fire.
Shorty Shorty Wednesday, February 20th, 2019
Isn't that a bit a bit cruel?
Rob Tuesday, February 19th, 2019
Expertly crafted in China with the highest grade Chinesium.
Psi Q Tuesday, February 19th, 2019
So new category: "Better should be forgotten weapons" ?
zJoriz Tuesday, February 19th, 2019
Doesn't seem to climb as much as other SMGs I've seen Ian fire. But that's just because of the lighter round, I suppose?
Lazurkri Tuesday, February 19th, 2019
...its a Red Chinese design and manufactured by shitty workers...I'm not surprised its a PoS, but hopefully it means that if/when war breaks out, hopefully this weapon causes the deaths of many Red Chinese!
Lolzipop Tuesday, February 19th, 2019
Wait, you can go full auto in Canada?
Talon Christiansen Tuesday, February 19th, 2019
It's called the JS2 on Battlefield 4.
Mukade Wolf Tuesday, February 19th, 2019
ANY .600 NITRO EXPRESS EVER SEE MILITARY USAGE?
Robert Flask Tuesday, February 19th, 2019
A 13 year old in shop class could make something better.
AJ or something Monday, February 18th, 2019
Look how much the thing flexes under fire I mean all guns do but heccc.
cross Monday, February 18th, 2019
Maybe change the name to 'POS-2'?
Rekless Echo Monday, February 18th, 2019
That's Lesion's gun isn't it? It's actually good in that game
Fetish Artist Monday, February 18th, 2019
While the gun looks neat, seeing the ejection port and the bolt moving that close to your face is disturbing. Like jamming a mac 10 right under your eye. Looks like it should have a cheek piece.
Michael Hill Monday, February 18th, 2019
“Just a little pick”
BloopTube Monday, February 18th, 2019
Wonder if they have green loctite over in china.
Danny Pham Monday, February 18th, 2019
The Sten of the modern world?
SaintClutch Monday, February 18th, 2019
I just want more videos of ian sarcastically durping on guns
Matt Stambaugh Sunday, February 17th, 2019
Gun itself (the bolt-batter-induced recoil ) is a psyop to make their troops feel like they are shooting more powerful guns than their enemies :P
RapeNinja Sunday, February 17th, 2019
Its unscrewing. The damn lugs on the sight-rails are unscrewing .You will notice it in slow-mo firing.
Florian Bösch Sunday, February 17th, 2019
It has two outstanding redeeming qualities. 1) It is made from chinesium and probaly costs 50 cents in production by child labor 2) any idiot can shoot it because recoil, firing rate and sights render all marksmanship superfluous to requirements.
matt daley Sunday, February 17th, 2019
Do a video on the type 81 next time your in Canada.
Mr_Beezlebub Sunday, February 17th, 2019
The only good gun China manufactured were their AKs and SKS rifles, and those were licensed copies of Russian guns.
jellytheninja Sunday, February 17th, 2019
Lesion
Aurel Brenot Saturday, February 16th, 2019
Look like a 9mm suppressed tavor with ugly iron sight,so Ian a vidéo on the wieger stg 940 ???
alanfender123 Saturday, February 16th, 2019
BF4
Reno Guns & Off-Road Saturday, February 16th, 2019
What kind of red tape does one must cut to get one of these in Canada?
Enclave Trooper Saturday, February 16th, 2019
there's a lot of butthurt chinese bugmen in the comments, I wonder why
Luis Mario Quintana Friday, February 15th, 2019
Kind of looks like the SMG from Halo OSDT, doesn't it?
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