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March 13, 2019

Model 1927 Thompson Semi Automatic Carbine

From Forgotten Weapons on Wednesday, March 13th, 2019 in How To, & Videos
Note: Rock Island has not yet posted the catalog for this auction - I will replace this note with a link when they do. 

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One of the rarest versions of the Thompsons Submachine Gun is the Model of 1927 Thompson Semi Automatic Carbine. These were regular 1921 machine guns that had their fire control groups slightly modified to only firm in semiauto and their receivers remarks to show Model 1927 instead of 1921. The rationale was a number of requests Auto Ordnance received from potential customers who wanted the look of a Thompson, but not an actual machine gun - mostly police and prison agencies that did not want to entrust their officers will fully automatic arms. Only about 100-150 1927 model guns were sold (and there is no specific serial range, they were simple converted one at a time as ordered). Of that very small number, only a very small percentage survive intact today, as most were converted back to fully automatic by later owners. Note that because the receiver is basically identical to a standard Thompson SMG receiver, these are considered machine guns under US law despite being factory semiauto carbines. However, this does mean that they can be legally converted to fully automatic (as, in fact, most have been).
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50 Comments on "Model 1927 Thompson Semi Automatic Carbine":

Gavin Henry Friday, March 22nd, 2019
Ian, buy it
Gun Sense (drmaudio) Wednesday, March 20th, 2019
So the gun is dumb enough that it should probably not exist. So dumb, in fact, that most all have been converted to a more logical state, which makes the dumb ones extremely valuable. Got it.
williestyle35 Sunday, March 17th, 2019
I truly believe this video would have as many views and comments as his other recent videos on Thompson guns if Ian had the description say something like "Super Rare Thompson 1927 carbine" and not mention semi automatic..
RENZ Sunday, March 17th, 2019
Technically, all you'd have to do to get the full auto feature is swap the lower frame to a full auto capable frame (no nfa stamp required) and go Snakes on a steel target.
Jari Norvanto Saturday, March 16th, 2019
Beautiful. Looks like a quality build.
Z P Saturday, March 16th, 2019
That one looks half-way converted. I believe the original 1927's would not have had the selector lever as the hole would've been welded shut. It's relatively easy to find original FA trigger frames to drop in without making any modifications.
workingmans dead44 Saturday, March 16th, 2019
tommys are artiscally appealing,but over rated,over priced,over complicated and under achievers.
ARMORER1911 Friday, March 15th, 2019
Political correctness even back then 🙄
Kevin Burger Friday, March 15th, 2019
2:49 Say it, don't spray it
Mike Rogge Friday, March 15th, 2019
In full auto, the disconnector is disconnected.
Sparta270 Thursday, March 14th, 2019
Only the us government is stupid enough to have a semi-auto gun registered as a machine gun.
LesPaulExpress Thursday, March 14th, 2019
Ian, long ago I had a catalog from a guy named J. Curtis Earl, who had purchased MGM's full arsenal when they down-sized. This catalog was in the 1970's and the machine guns were cheap. M1A1 Thompsons were $450. Anyway, a couple of Thompsons were semi-auto only and sold as a pair. They were marked U.S. Navy, were consecutive serial numbered, and listed as being for Shore Patrol use where longer accuracy was needed over the M1911, but was controllable because of many people on the docks. I wish I knew what happened to that catalog.
J C Thursday, March 14th, 2019
This to me is exactly the sort of video that makes this channel so valuable. Real forgotten weapons and their stories preserved. Thanks Gun-Jesus.
Spicey Squirts Thursday, March 14th, 2019
Pardon my ignorance, does this mean if someone buys this in semi auto and converts it to fully auto its perfectly legal or those rules applied only back then?
chi7891 Thursday, March 14th, 2019
Don’t ruin the artifact!
napa modesto Thursday, March 14th, 2019
It should be mandatory to wear a suit while firing this.
Truckin'Gunner Thursday, March 14th, 2019
I understand where Ian is coming from, but if I owned that gun you can bet your sweet **** I would retro fit it to full auto baby!
Robert Kubrick Thursday, March 14th, 2019
Don't you love loopholes?
ranwolf76 Thursday, March 14th, 2019
was there ever a select fire version? EDIT: nevermind
MakeMeThinkAgain Thursday, March 14th, 2019
This actually makes a lot of sense if you think about police blasting away in full auto with a .45 APC SMG. Not as bad as a B.A.R. but I still wouldn't want to be in the vicinity.
gary pack Thursday, March 14th, 2019
Off topic where are you on firing your mas 38?
Kyle Stridsberg Thursday, March 14th, 2019
I'm a security officer and I can tell you that not giving most security personnel automatic weapons is a good idea
Michael Palmer Thursday, March 14th, 2019
You have the best job available ian im jealous 🙃
BigPappi Bj Wednesday, March 13th, 2019
Since it just needs some parts swapped, couldn’t you just change it back and forth on a whim?
Patrick Arseneault Wednesday, March 13th, 2019
next to an ak 47 the thompson is my favourite weapon
Paul Jones Wednesday, March 13th, 2019
Just buy a spare select fire lower assembly.
Škorpion 313 Wednesday, March 13th, 2019
You could convert these to full auto sense they already legally are
7 Six Two Wednesday, March 13th, 2019
The Chicago hunt and peck typewriter.
Mrgunsngear Channel Wednesday, March 13th, 2019
very cool
TheGearhead222 Wednesday, March 13th, 2019
Thompsons are so overpriced! Great video though!:)-John in Texas
gary edwards Wednesday, March 13th, 2019
The only good thing about being back after 2 weeks holiday is 2 weeks worth of forgotten weapons in one go lol
S T Wednesday, March 13th, 2019
Just here to read the gun jesus comments.
Alessandro Caputo Wednesday, March 13th, 2019
Shoot with M1927!
Alessandro Caputo Wednesday, March 13th, 2019
Alex yo Wednesday, March 13th, 2019
I would 100% make that full auto but keep the semi parts
The Black Templar Wednesday, March 13th, 2019
It is nice that it is still in such a nice condition
Khanclansith Wednesday, March 13th, 2019
He's not wrong... There are dozens of modern "M27-A1" models
Chasmodius Wednesday, March 13th, 2019
In the current market, I think the only way this piece retains its semi-auto nature is in a bag of parts the next owner hopefully keeps with it. I think the value of curiosity is likely less than the value of RAT-A-TAT-A-TAT! to most people willing to pay NFA auction prices.
Jeff Walker Wednesday, March 13th, 2019
Is it Full Semi Auto?
TheFoxBox349 Wednesday, March 13th, 2019
Did you know, If you search "Gun Jesus" on YouTube, you get the Forgotten Weapons channel? Its now that only way i look for new videos outside of my sub box.
Switcharoo12 Wednesday, March 13th, 2019
Totally dig your videos.Thank you Ian.
DreamingFlurry Wednesday, March 13th, 2019
Soooooo...if this is registered as a sub-gun: Can you actually convert this to full-auto? (Especially if it is an off the shelf Tommy Gun and can handle fully automatic fire!)
Torque Mk1 Wednesday, March 13th, 2019
6:44 Make Thompson full auto again!
Andrew Baum Wednesday, March 13th, 2019
Jake M Wednesday, March 13th, 2019
Machine gun prices for semi-auto only?Where don't I sign up!
David Morris Wednesday, March 13th, 2019
I'm very surprised that ATF didn't grant an exemption for this gun, like other semi-auto firearms that would be otherwise prohibited.
Andrew Beamish Wednesday, March 13th, 2019
The epitome of a "forgotten weapon" :)
įkalama šuo Wednesday, March 13th, 2019
auto-ordnance still produces semi-automatic Thompsons
1423 171 Wednesday, March 13th, 2019
I mean you can conserve the historical value AND convert it to full auto all you need is a new full auto fire control group which while expensive isn't unobtainable **** If you've got the money to buy this you could probably pay a machinist to make you one
Darksithbenni Wednesday, March 13th, 2019
is it hard allways looking at guns for sale and not buying them all?
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